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Song Structures - Stop Repeating Verses - v 3.5 - Shiroken
Shiroken [ Shear - Row - Ken ]APP
So what are the likely culprits for this problem?
• Song Structure
• Large syllable count differences between parts of song
• Spaces, between lines, tags, and at the end of lines that are not needed in a typical song structure in suno (4 lines space 4 lines space 4 lines space structure)
Song Structure
For the purposes of this workflow I will be using my current song structure. It looks like below. This can be made shorter, interlude can be moved, a break and a bridge are typically where i have them specifically, but you can change if you want.
•### Intro : ( Descriptors ... text s popisem místo tagů je zde... )
•### Verse 1: ( Descriptors)
•### Pre-Chorus: ( Descriptors )
Text písně
•### Chorus 1: ( Descriptors )
•### Verse 2: ( Descriptors )
Text písně
•### Pre-Chorus: ( Descriptors )
Text refrénu
•### Chorus 2: ( Descriptors )
Text refrénu
•### Instrumental Break: ( Descriptors )
•### Interlude: ( Descriptors )
•### Bridge: ( Descriptors)
•### Chorus 3: ( Descriptors )
•### Outro: ( Descriptors )
•### Final Flourish:
There are many reasons why i think this structure, and how its specifically written is the most superior to me.
• It has 0 Meta Tags, as is commonplace currently, ie [This]
• My testing has shown 3 tags back to back in sequential order is the Max, before you will start experiencing problems. When you already spend tags on the song structure itself, it leaves little freedom for controlling other things, like vocals.
• Depending on structure the ai can attach an entire verse to a tag structure, and when it comes up later it will jump back to when it was used previously. This has happened to me using similar tag in 2 verses, and having the same word in each verse.
• The dhash ( # ) typically tells codes, machines, ai, to ignore something. However when using multiple theres different meaning. In Chatgpt and other AI three Dhash means really large text, like a title, and this thus seperates it from everything else.
• Descriptors do work. However be brief, and ask for things it understands easily. If you ask for a theremin, expect no success in 3.5.
Large syllable count differences
For this, I will show you a few examples.
• (Refer to comment 1 below) Notice here it specifically repeats the previous verse at 1:50 because the bridge has a large syllable count difference from the rest of the song.
• (Refer to comment 2 below) However you will notice here, with enough time you can make it work without any extends.
• This syllable count difference looks like this. Notice the jump, and also the poor structure. 19 17 15 19 compared to previously.
• https://ibb.co/yfxd7Rf
• As such, you want a similar syllable count structure throughout the song. If you differ from your structure, expect several attempts, or extends to fix.
Spaces and spacing
• Spacing can cause problems. This is more apparent when using meta tags. If using meta tags, keep each tag on a seperate line with no spaces between them or the verse / chorus / ect you are applying them to.
• If you copy your lyrics from a word editor of some kind, check for excessive extra spacing at the end of lines, especially song structure headings, like verses and chorus'.
• If you use my song structure, you shouldn't have any issues with this, unless you excessively add meta tags to it.
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